Food Safety Matters is a podcast for food safety professionals hosted by the Food Safety Magazine editorial team – the leading media brand in food safety for over 20 years. Each episode will feature a conversation with a food safety professional sharing their experiences and insights of the important job of safeguarding the world’s food supply.
Keith Warriner, Ph.D., is a professor of food science at the University of Guelph. He is also the food science graduate coordinator of the department’s Master of Science and Ph.D. food science programs.
After completing his Ph.D. in microbial physiology at the University College of Wales, he worked for the Department of Medicine at the University of Manchester where he studied biosensors. He also attended the University of Nottingham as a research fellow in food microbiology, working with fresh produce.
He joined the Department of Food Science at the University of Guelph in 2002 and was promoted to full professor in 2011. He is the former president of the Ontario Food Protection Association, a member of the International Association of Food Protection, is an associate editor of the Canadian Journal of Microbiology, and is on the editorial board for Applied & Environmental Microbiology and International Journal of Food Microbiology.
Keith's research revolves around food safety and food microbiology, allowing him to work closely with industry and apply his research findings in a practical way.
Keith was previously interviewed for Episode 37 of Food Safety Matters.
In this episode of Food Safety Matters, we speak to Keith [14:30] about:
The history of Henry Fenton, the Fenton reaction, and the Fenton reagent
The use of water, hydrogen peroxide, and UV light to kill pollutants, pesticides, etc.
Applying hydroxyl radicals to fresh produce including spinach and other leafy greens
The advanced oxidation process (AOP) and why it's so problematic with tomatoes
How the 2006 spinach outbreak change the leafy greens industry's outlook on food safety
Thoughts on how to address polluted water affecting leafy greens and how his process would likely be effective
The George Weston Seeding Innovation Program
Why washing is so problematic in preventing cross-contamination in leafy greens
What matters to food companies when it comes to AOP
AOP's use with meat and fish
The current pandemic, N95 masks, and how food recalls have been affected
Dr. David Acheson, is the founder and CEO of The Acheson Group and brings more than 30 years of medical and food safety research and experience to provide strategic advice as well as recall and crisis management support to food companies and ancillary technology companies on a global basis on all matters relating to food safety and food defense.
David graduated from the University of London Medical School and practiced internal medicine and infectious diseases in the United Kingdom until 1987 when he moved to the New England Medical Center and became an Associate Professor at Tufts University in Boston, studying the molecular pathogenesis of foodborne pathogens.
Prior to forming The Acheson Group, David served as the Chief Medical Officer at the U.S. Department of Agriculture Food Safety and Inspection Service and then joined the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) as the Chief Medical Officer at the FDA Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition (CFSAN). After serving as the director of CFSAN’s Office of Food Defense, Communication, and Emergency Response, David was appointed as the Assistant and then Associate Commissioner for Foods, which provided him an agency-wide leadership role for all food and feed issues and the responsibility for the development of the 2007 Food Protection Plan, which served as the basis for many of the authorities granted to FDA by the Food Safety Modernization Act.
From 2009 to 2013, he was a partner at Leavitt Partners where he managed Leavitt Partners Global Food Safety Solutions.
David has published extensively and is internationally recognized both for his public health expertise in food safety and his research in infectious diseases. He is a sought-after speaker and regular guest on national news programs. He serves on a variety of boards and food safety advisory groups of several major food manufacturers.
David was previously a guest on Food Safety Matters – episodes 12 and 45.
In this episode of Food Safety Matters, we speak to David [11:31] about:
Classifying RTE foods and how consumer behavior plays a critical role
Challenges related to messaging and marketing tactics displayed on consumer packaging and how it can interfere with food safety perception
Consumer vs. manufacturer responsibility when foodborne illness occurs
How food processing trends, consumer behaviors, and regulations intertwine
Steps a company can take to determine if their product is truly RTE
Why consistently negative swabbing results is not a good thing
How FDA responds to positive contamination findings in a plant
The challenges associated with drilling down traceability to the item level
Romaine lettuce and why leafy greens are such a tricky commodity
Salmonella and the likelihood that it may officially become an adulterant
Bryan Hitchcock is the executive director of the Global Food Traceability Center (GFTC) for the Institute of Food Technologists (IFT). Bryan is responsible for managing and directing the GFTC, including overall leadership, strategy and governance, sales and marketing, and government, public, and industry relations.
Additionally, Bryan is IFT's principal scientific and technology leader on matters related to existing food chains and their digital transformation. His previous roles have been with PepsiCo, Procter & Gamble, and 3M Company.
Bryan earned his bachelor's degree in Chemical Engineering from Cornell University.
In this episode of Food Safety Matters, we speak to Bryan [26:44] about:
The birth of GFTC and how it was made possible with the help of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration
What traceability and communication should look like within the food supply chain
Proactive steps food companies can take to improve their supply chain transparency and traceability
Four key data elements uncovered in research
GFTC's role in providing feedback to FDA
The need for more training at all levels of the food supply chain
Artificial intelligence and how it's been applied in agricultural farming
Bob Norton, Ph.D. is the chair of the Auburn University Food System Institute’s Food and Water Defense Working Group He is a long-time consultant to the U.S. military as well as federal and state law enforcement agencies. Bob is also a regular contributor to the Food Safety Magazine eDigest.
Soren Rodning, D.V.M., M.Sc., DACT, is an associate professor and extension veterinarian with the Auburn University Department of Animal Sciences and the Alabama Cooperative Extension System.
Jason Sawyer is an associate professor of meat science with the Department of Animal Sciences at Auburn University.
Alex Tigue is a regional extension agent, Animal Sciences & Forages, Auburn University.
In this episode of Food Safety Matters, we speak to Bob, Soren, Jason, and Alex [25:58] about:
Whether or not the food industry could have seen such an event coming
The current state of the U.S. food supply and whether or not we'll experience a food shortage
The changing relationship between food companies and the public health sector
The truth about whether or not COVID-19 can be transmitted from a food facility worker to the food they work so closely with
The risks associated with having sick employees in the workplace
Converting food products meant for foodservice to other food sectors and the complications that accompany such a change
Stacey Popham is the vice president of quality and food safety for the Americas region of Barry Callebaut. Prior to this, Stacey held the same role at Treehouse Foods. Before then, she spent 13 years at Kraft Foods in various quality and R&D roles.
Mike Cramer is the senior director of food safety and quality assurance for Ajinomoto Windsor where he's served for 26 years. Mike is also a longstanding member of Food Safety Magazine's Editorial Advisory Board.
Sean Leighton is the vice president of food safety, quality, and regulatory affairs at Cargill. Before that, Sean spent 13 years with Coca-Cola (U.S., Canada, and Europe) in various roles spanning quality, food safety, and environmental sustainability. Sean is also a member of Food Safety Magazine's Editorial Advisory Board.
In this episode of Food Safety Matters, we speak to Stacey [10:26], Mike [29:58], and Sean [52:54]about:
How food safety and quality roles have shifted to address many challenges brought forth by the coronavirus pandemic
Communicating and assuring employee safety and food safety
Slower line speeds, social distancing, and other measures in place to keep food facilities clean and virus-free
Helping employees differentiate between COVID-19 symptoms vs. cold/allergy symptoms
Maintaining a consistent supply chain
New ways to work with on-site suppliers and service providers
Creative solutions and approaching food safety virtually
In this Special Edition, Food Safety Matters spoke to two supply chain experts about COVID-19 and what it means for every level of the global food industry.
John G. Keogh is a strategist, advisor, and management science researcher with 30 years of executive leadership roles as director, vice president, and senior vice president in global supply chain management, information technology, technology consulting, and supply chain standards. Currently, he is managing principal at Toronto-based, niche advisory, and research firm Shantalla Inc. He holds a post-graduate diploma in Management, an MBA in Management and a Master of Science in Business and Management Research in Transparency and Trust in the Food Chain. He is currently completing doctoral research focused on transparency and trust in global food chains at Henley Business School, University of Reading, using the lenses of agency theory, signaling theory, and transactional cost theory.
Carl or ’’C.J.” Unis is a Systems Engineer with expertise in Continuity of Operations, Continuity of Government, devolution, infrastructure, supply chain logistics and emergency management. He has a Master’s Degree in Systems Engineering from the Stevens Institute of Technology. C.J. was formerly the critical infrastructure protection program manager for the New Mexico Department of Homeland Security and Emergency Management. He has served as a federal agent in the capacity of providing classified transportation for the Department of Energy, National Nuclear Security Administration— Office of Secure Transportation, as well as holding numerous positions for the U.S. Marine Corps in the capacity of performing internal embassy, dignitary, motor transport specialist and classified material security duties.
In this episode of Food Safety Matters, we speak to John and C.J. about:
Opinions on whether or not the current coronavirus outbreak was a foreseeable event
How the consequences of the food industry's lack of digitization is panning out amid the outbreak
Issues within the global supply chain, ingredient sourcing, and what could happen if the effects of COVID-19 are long-lasting
What leadership really looks like at a time like this
How the government and food industry are initiating change in parts of Canada
Disruptions and unintended consequences the food industry is having to deal with
Steven Mandernach is the executive director of the Association of Food and Drug Officials (AFDO), which unites high-level regulatory officials, industry representatives, trade associations, academia, and consumer organizations. Prior to becoming executive director in 2018, Steve was the bureau chief for food and consumer safety at the Iowa Department of Inspections. He is a past president of AFDO and current co-chair of the Association’s Laws and Regulations committee. He has a J.D. from Drake University Law School.
Ernest Julian, Ph.D. is chief of the Center for Food Protection for the Rhode Island Department of Health, a position he has held for the last 30 years. Prior to this, he was with the Connecticut Department of Health for 14 years. He is president of the Association of Food and Drug Officials (AFDO) and he has served as AFDO’s representative to the Council to Improve Foodborne Outbreak Response (CIFOR), and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s FSMA Surveillance Workgroup. Ernie is also an adjunct assistant professor of Health Services, Policy, and Practice at Brown University.
In this episode of Food Safety Matters, we speak to Steve and Ernie [37:07] about:
Recruiting and retaining employees in food regulation and industry sectors
Proper allocation of resources for food facility inspections
The importance of follow-up after a less than stellar inspection
Teachable moments and their effect on behavioral change with consumers
How upper management can become powerful advocates for inspectors in the field
How AFDO approaches messaging with consumer audiences
Leafy greens contamination
Ongoing and potential future food safety challenges
We also speak to the International Food Information Council (IFIC)'s Joe Clayton (CEO) and Silvia Dumitrescu [16:25] about:
Q&A: "Scheduling Nightmares"
I have only recently begun listening to your show, and love the content. It is interesting and engaging while still being challenging, complex, and informative. There may be some past content that I have not observed that answers my question, but I have a question for your team.
With some recent spikes in demand, our plant has opted to fluctuate/extend schedules and has a history of regular (excessive) overtime requirements. We are fortunate to have a solid staff with dramatically improved retention and our plant safety mechanisms have been successfully over-hauled. Now, however, we have begun to ask operators to work additional days and also begin their shifts much earlier from (6 am to 3 am). This is having a directly negative impact on our sanitors who typically have to react to the changing production schedules, reduces supervisory oversight, and may lead to burnout. The QA staff is also not available to be on-site during the extended manufacturing hours. As a team leader in QA, I am attempting to demonstrate that there is sufficient added risk in these methods to rule them out except under defined circumstances.
My question is about the probable impacts of varying, unpredictable schedules on food safety.
Overall a good problem to have (product in high-demand), but we as an organization need to fully understand the risks to guide our actions. If you have any support, I appreciate it!
Response from Mike Cramer:
What I can provide is more of my anecdotal experience with some of our plants where constantly changing and extended schedules ultimately lead to employee dissatisfaction, tardiness and absenteeism and ultimately turnover. We experienced this a year or so ago when we opened up our newest facility in Joplin, MO with the concept of continuous runs with built-in sanitation periods. However, the management of the process was inconsistent and we were not able to maintain an effective work staff because personnel were unhappy with not having a set schedule around which they could plan their family/personal life.
If the plant is regulated by USDA, it would have to provide the area supervisor with a set schedule so that an inspection for pre-op could be assigned; and the plant would not be able to run beyond the time they set with USDA; otherwise, they would run into situations where they are operating without benefit of inspection.
A possible solution would be to modify FSQA staff hours so that there is 24-hour coverage with overlap as needed. This would be dependent upon the size of the staff and their flexibility to work off-hours, but when I worked at a hot dog/sausage plant in Chicago many years ago I had to do this with personnel due to the time the sanitation team worked and pre-op needed to be conducted, the time that grinding and blending started and the time second shift finished at night. However, that was a much more consistent schedule, particularly since it was a USDA operation.
What I would suggest is that the individual also partner with other departments, such as HR, to determine the turnover rate in various departments and how this might impact their efficiencies. I’d also want to know, from an HR perspective, whether this inconsistency of scheduling could put the plant into a conflict with labor laws. Finally, the biggest factor is whether this shortening of the time for sanitation is having a direct impact on the sanitary operating conditions of the plant. Sometimes this is not noticeable immediately but “builds up” over time. It may be an indicator that you are not cleaning effectively due to fatigue or due to lack of time to be thorough.
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